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Updated: 15 Jan 2003

In Search Of

The Descendants of
Thomas Treadwerll

Submitted By:
Gil Abar
ggajr@msn.com

Hi Don - If you have the room you might want to add this little story to the pages I sent you.   It pertains to the same people and is not fact but just a possibility.   Who knows? - Gil

Once a upon a time many many years ago in another land far across the sea in a place called England a young man was born named Thomas TREDWELL.The time was in the year of our Lord about fifteen hundred and ten.   The place was Swalcliffe, Oxfordshire, England..   From this event a family tale evolved that young Thomas was the illegitimate son of the young King, Henry the VIII.

When I heard this tale I set forth to find out once and for all if this could be true..   While we can never prove this today, short of DNA tests which I don't believe King Henry VIII would approve, much less agree to..   However, I will tell you the facts as I known them to be and some background from a direct descendant of King Henry VIII, who is another family genealogist researching their family history, then I will let you draw your own conclusion.

Thomas Tredwell was born about 1510 in the area of Swalcliffe, Oxfordshire, England and died in the same area in abt 1545..   He raised his family in the areas of Epwell and Banbury (of noted Banbury Cross)..  These were all with in 4 to 5 miles of each other..   An earlier family genealogist Allan Treadwell from California spent almost 20 years researching Thomas for the purpose of proving that Thomas Tredwell (born 1605) and Edward Tredwell (born 1608) were brothers and that they landed in Ipswich, Mass.   in the mid 1630's..   It was not until the late 1970's and 3 trips to England was he able to prove this through finding the records of their births.   While he also found Thomas (1510) he did not find a record of his parents..   In the case of Thomas and Edward he saw the actual and original records.   Another fact he recorded was that on the road to Banbury from Epwell you pass Broughton Castle, the home of Lord Saye and Sele.

Now Henry the VIII, was born 28 June 1491, in Greenwich, just outside London.   He succeeded his father to the throne in 1509..   It is a well recorded fact that he was married 6 times, while some of these marriages may have been politically motivated, he had to like women, as you will see in the following.

M. Lewis, who is a descendant gave me the following information and insight to his life:   "At the time under discussion he was crowned King in 1509 and that would have made him a "randy" 18..   As King, he could have and would have gone anywhere he liked.   As part of the coronation, could have toured the countryside, staying where the local lords had invited him and sharing a bed with whom he pleased...   The probability of that sharing could easily have made possible several illegitimate children.

However, as Henry married many times and only acknowledged few children, one has to assume that he only acknowledged the ones where the families had the where withal to press their case.   A peasant would have no way of pressing their claim in the courts.   This was during the time of the absolute monarchies and the King did as he pleased.   I can't discount your families claim, nor could I prove it."

The only son that Henry acknowledged out of wedlock was Henry FitzRoy, born in 1519 whom he created Duke of Richmond and Somerset.   FitzRoy married Lady Mary Howard, daughter of Thomas, 3rd Duke of Norfolk after 26 November 1533..   Other possible ones that historians have speculated about are Sir John Perot, Ethelreda (wife of John Harrington), Henry Carey, Lord Hunsdon (his mother Mary Boleyn, sister of Queen Anne Boleyn became Henry's mistress about 1520), and Sir Thomas Stucley.   There were no others that historians have been able to agree on.

So ends my tale or does it? I will let you to draw your own conclusions.   And the tale goes on and on and on!

He was of Sybforde Gore (Sibford Gower, in the parish of Swalcliffe, Oxfordshire) born about 1510, died between 1 May and 20 June 1545..   His will Oxford Archdeacorny Court, series I, Vol. II/58) written in the yere of our Lord God m iiiii xiv the fyrst of Maye and proved xx* die Junii anno superscripto names his wife Elizabeth, Richard Ancok, probably Alcock, granddaughter's husband and six children.

My line is from Thomas.   The brother Edward was in Ipswich a short time before he went to Connecticut.   That line went south from there while mine went north.

Gil

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